When Persuasion is Futile

When I read about business leadership, rarely do I find a nugget of wisdom so concise and relevant to work as well as the rest of life, as “disagree and commit”. Jeff Bezos, founder and CEO of…

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What Were Your Numbers This Weekend?

Or it could be indicative of something much more. . .

Pastors now are wanting to be counted at other metrics: baptisms, salvations, groups, serving, and discipleship. Some are even looking at how the bad numbers in their communities are changing (violent crime, educational gap, poverty rates, etc.). This is great and highly encouraged. We should’ve been doing this all along.

Here is an example of two pastors:

Pastor 1: “We don’t measure Sunday AM numbers, we measure disciples, baptisms, salvations. We intentionally discipled 12 people last year, baptized 11, and saw 17 people make a decision to follow Jesus.”

Pastor 2: “Same here! And we had the same exact metrics as Pastor 1. 12, 11, 17.”

Second Chair Solutions: “Wow! That’s amazing (and a weird coincidence). I celebrate those numbers! Just for context, what are your Sunday AM numbers?”

Pastor 1: “150 Sunday AM”

Second Chair Solutions: “That’s awesome! You are really on mission!”

Pastor 2: “1,700 Sunday AM”

Second Chair Solutions: “We need to talk.”

Your micro must support your macro. Your systems, numbers, output, etc. must support your larger vision. Honestly, in that example; Pastor 1 is seeing some amazing things happen. Though they probably won’t be invited to speak at any conferences anytime soon, their metrics are still remarkable. While I do not have…

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